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also did her a great favor by insulating her from the politics of the last four years. joe biden, i think, is going to be in the center of a lot of the big political fights over the next year and going to see his approval ratings probably take a beating. of course, playing kyoto say this isn't about 2016. what a fantastic launch for hillary clinton. should she decide to run. i think one of the things we have seen over the last elections is that the person who has some strong connection with a base who's a candidate almost drafted by the base does better. mitt romney didn't have that. john mccain didn't have that. i hazard to say i don't think biden has that either. any of the democrats i talked to always say clinton, clinton, clinton. it's time for a woman. i think this will be hillary clinton's big decision to make and my goodness, joe biden certainly can't be happy about that but i think this sort of speculation about biden, at least keeps sort of interest in obama's presidency. >> right. >> makes it more relevant going forward. >> and let's be real here. i mean, as a
also did her a great favor by insulating her from the politics of the last four years. joe biden, i think, is going to be in the center of a lot of the big political fights over the next year and going to see his approval ratings probably take a beating. of course, playing kyoto say this isn't about 2016. what a fantastic launch for hillary clinton. should she decide to run. i think one of the things we have seen over the last elections is that the person who has some strong connection with a...
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because that's where in politics a lot of times the real bitterness lingers. and, you know, bill clinton has had a harder time forgiving the president than hillary clinton has. and michelle obama i think has had a harder time burying the hatchet than president obama has. this was a very tough race in 2008. but what is interesting is that they seem to have some chemistry in that interview. it wasn't a kind of formal stiff -- >> it was pretty smooth, pretty natural. >> they had a connection with each other that was important for the country to see. >> all right, jonathan alter, great to have you with us. thank you so much. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. and rachel maddow of "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. >> good evening, and thank you. >> you bet. >> thanks to you at home for staying with us this hour. the 50th state in the united states is of course hawaii. 49th state admitted the year before, alaska. so those were 49 and 50. those are the last two states admitted to the union in 1958 and 1959. what was the last state admitted before then? be
because that's where in politics a lot of times the real bitterness lingers. and, you know, bill clinton has had a harder time forgiving the president than hillary clinton has. and michelle obama i think has had a harder time burying the hatchet than president obama has. this was a very tough race in 2008. but what is interesting is that they seem to have some chemistry in that interview. it wasn't a kind of formal stiff -- >> it was pretty smooth, pretty natural. >> they had a...
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. >> there are few things historically speaking that are seen as bigger political lifts in washington than immigration reform or than gun reform. but just eight days into this second term, the obama administration is working actively to accomplish both of these things simultaneously. today president obama and vice president biden met with police chiefs and local sheriffs from around the country, including police chiefs from newtown, connecticut, aurora, colorado, and oak creek, wisconsin, all of which have endured major mass shootings just within the past six months. vice president biden also held a roundtable discussion on gun reform in richmond, virginia on friday. he had the homeland secretary and health secretary with him there. president obama himself made a high profile reference to gun reform in his inauguration speech last week. other cabinet members, including the attorney general, have been making their own news on moving forward on gun reform, mental health reform, background checks. the administration, in other words, doing everything they can to not only move on this, but
. >> there are few things historically speaking that are seen as bigger political lifts in washington than immigration reform or than gun reform. but just eight days into this second term, the obama administration is working actively to accomplish both of these things simultaneously. today president obama and vice president biden met with police chiefs and local sheriffs from around the country, including police chiefs from newtown, connecticut, aurora, colorado, and oak creek, wisconsin,...
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so how will the politics of this new effort shake out on capitol hill? we asked two senators from the gang of eight. first my conversation with democratic senator dick durbin of illinois. i talked to the majority whip just a short time ago. senator durbin, thank you very much for joining us. i think one of the main questions i'm hearing is, what does this proposal mean for people living in this country illegally right now? what would happen to them? >> basically it would give them a chance to go through a criminal background check to make certain that there are no problems in terms of their background, to pay a fine, to pay their taxes, and then they would be here in a probationary status where they could not be deported. they could work. and we watched them as a number of other things evolve and progress under the bill. border security leading to green cards, leading to citizenship. >> woodruff: we hear some advocacy organizations saying, wait a minute. even that level of requirement is going to be a disincentive. they're not going to want to sign up if
so how will the politics of this new effort shake out on capitol hill? we asked two senators from the gang of eight. first my conversation with democratic senator dick durbin of illinois. i talked to the majority whip just a short time ago. senator durbin, thank you very much for joining us. i think one of the main questions i'm hearing is, what does this proposal mean for people living in this country illegally right now? what would happen to them? >> basically it would give them a...
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so how will the politics of this new effort shake out on capitol hill? we asked two senators from the gang of eight. first my conversation with democratic senator dick durbin of illinois. i talked to the majority whip just a short time ago. senator durbin thank you very much for joining us. i think one of the main questions i'm hearing is, what does this proposal mean for people living in this country illegally right now? what would happen to them? >> basically it would give them a chance to go through a criminal background check to make certain that there are no problems in terms of their background, to pay a fine to pay their taxes, and then they would be here in a probationary status where they could not be deported. they could work. and we watched them as a number of other things evolve and progress under the bill. border security leading to green cards, leading to citizenship. >> woodruff: we hear some advocacy organizations saying, wait a minute. even that level of requirement is going to be a disincentive. they're not going to want to sign up if t
so how will the politics of this new effort shake out on capitol hill? we asked two senators from the gang of eight. first my conversation with democratic senator dick durbin of illinois. i talked to the majority whip just a short time ago. senator durbin thank you very much for joining us. i think one of the main questions i'm hearing is, what does this proposal mean for people living in this country illegally right now? what would happen to them? >> basically it would give them a chance...
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joining us from new york, she's the political correspondent for the root. great to have you inside "the war room" again kelly. >> great to be back. >> jennifer: so yes president obama sat down with spanish language news outlets. here is one question from univision. >> is this going to be a battle between you and marco rubio? >> obama: i don't think so. look we put border security ahead of pathway to citizenship. we've done more on border security in the past four years than we have done in the previous 20. >> jennifer: this is a key issue is it going to come down to the border security issue. >> i can tell you this much, the republicans will pretend that it does. according to. they have ten border agency for every mile. no one has been clear by, quote securing the borders. if you ask one senator you get one answer. if you ask another, you get another answer. you ask someone who is conservative you'll get a vastly different answer than someone who is moderate. my take is that there is this bait-and-switch which we're probably looking at where people say i'm
joining us from new york, she's the political correspondent for the root. great to have you inside "the war room" again kelly. >> great to be back. >> jennifer: so yes president obama sat down with spanish language news outlets. here is one question from univision. >> is this going to be a battle between you and marco rubio? >> obama: i don't think so. look we put border security ahead of pathway to citizenship. we've done more on border security in the past...
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all of this a day before president obama is set to lay out his plan on immigration proposal in nevada. here to talk about it is gloria borger, and cornell belcher, and political contributor and republican consultant margaret hoover. gloria, let me start with you. what is so different this time around for the republicans? simply the reality of november's election? >> yeah, they are worried about their own survival as a political party. one way to survive as a party is to broaden your base and not remain hostage to a single part of it. and i think that has been the problem for the republican party when you talk about john mccain. when john mccain was challenged from the right in 2010, when he was running for re-election to the senate, he became much more conservative on immigration policy. now i think he's sort of unshackled and he's back to the position he was in in 2005 and 2007. i mean, you know, i spent a lot of time with him on that straight talk express when he was running for the presidency in 2007. and i remember him telling me that he was stunned at the vitriolic reaction withi
all of this a day before president obama is set to lay out his plan on immigration proposal in nevada. here to talk about it is gloria borger, and cornell belcher, and political contributor and republican consultant margaret hoover. gloria, let me start with you. what is so different this time around for the republicans? simply the reality of november's election? >> yeah, they are worried about their own survival as a political party. one way to survive as a party is to broaden your base...
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we took part of these briefings of the obama administration team. we thought we had a program that was viable, limited, politically and legally realistic. one by way the entire intelligence committee have now been reached into. to digress for a second, the major mistake we made, and i include myself in this, was in the early years of the program. the existence of the program, ed to theas not limit t gameng of 8. i think that was a mistake. by 2006 both had been briefed. we thought it was possible. we thought the obama administration could have continued the program in this limited form, at least maintained it as an option. it did not come to pass they told the -- to pass. i do not think any less realistically thought they would stick with that. we have not reviewed the executive order. the tunnel was out of our plane. this is a factual slot in the film. they're saying this is not factually correct. we got a hold of the executive order again. all government will be confined to the techniques in army filled many predict army field manual. -- army fiel
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he loves politics, reaching out but i do believe that this -- that president obama and secretary clinton have become real good, close friends. he's relied on her. her judgment. he trusts her advice. this is a relationship that i think has been forged during the four years that they've worked very closely together. >> i want to go something in the immediate future which is the super bowl and transition to football and, again, talk about something i thought was quite extraordinary in your interview, chris hughes. president obama was asked, i'm wonder if you as a fan take less pleasure in watching football knowing the impact it takes on the game's players. i'm a big football fan but i have to tell you if i had a son i'd have to think long and hard before i let him play football. i happen to be the mother of a college football player, so i read that especially carefully. i want your reaction to that, george. >> the kinetic energy in the football program at kenyan college where your son is a football player is different than the nfl. >> yes, he seemed more concern about college football than
he loves politics, reaching out but i do believe that this -- that president obama and secretary clinton have become real good, close friends. he's relied on her. her judgment. he trusts her advice. this is a relationship that i think has been forged during the four years that they've worked very closely together. >> i want to go something in the immediate future which is the super bowl and transition to football and, again, talk about something i thought was quite extraordinary in your...
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of in the direction of the most of the memo energy secretary steven chu said at the beginning of obama's term. we need to find someway to gasoline prices as high as europe. he's been criticized by republicans ever since. would you agree that is come of course politically inconvenient but also an open secret? >> i wouldn't say that. don't forget that the first thing that happens when prices go up is people downsize. they get smaller vehicles, and that's not a vote for more technology. or a shift to different fuels. it's kind of reality. so don't forget consumers have incredible -- that's hard job is to provide them with a choice, with good products that meet their needs. but it's, the idea that we're going to final consumers into some policy driven choices here i think is a little overly optimistic. >> i would add to this as well, the other half of the equation, the other half of the question is what can we do as automakers? you know, trying to innovate, trying to reduce costs, trying to develop new technologies, compete with one another, you know, to get the cost of these technologies do
of in the direction of the most of the memo energy secretary steven chu said at the beginning of obama's term. we need to find someway to gasoline prices as high as europe. he's been criticized by republicans ever since. would you agree that is come of course politically inconvenient but also an open secret? >> i wouldn't say that. don't forget that the first thing that happens when prices go up is people downsize. they get smaller vehicles, and that's not a vote for more technology. or a...
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. >>> real politics now. as expected president obama called on congress to overhaul broken immigration laws. in a speech he praised a plan unveiled by eight senators. he stressed the similarities between his vision and theirs. >> that's what comprehensive immigration looks like, smarter enforcement, a pathway to earn citizenship, improvements in the legal immigration system, so that we continue to be a magnet for the best and the brightest all around the world. >> president obama also sounded a warning, though, saying the time to act is now, and if congress can't deliver, he's going to step in. >> the foundation for bipartisan action is already in place. and if congress is unable to move forward in a timely fashion, i will send up a bill based on my proposal and insist that they vote on it right away. >> bipartisan plan he's talking about comes with some crucial strings that contains provisions for paths to citizenship but only if certain conditions are first met. chief among those making sure the border is s
. >>> real politics now. as expected president obama called on congress to overhaul broken immigration laws. in a speech he praised a plan unveiled by eight senators. he stressed the similarities between his vision and theirs. >> that's what comprehensive immigration looks like, smarter enforcement, a pathway to earn citizenship, improvements in the legal immigration system, so that we continue to be a magnet for the best and the brightest all around the world. >> president...
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it is sitting there politically in the bush administration and the obama administration for political reasons, they have not wanted to release that regulation. they want to digitize the private records and make them accessible to driver's license- issuing agencies in any other agency that needs it. it is the one piece of real idea that has not been done and the state's complaint is a cost issue and i would love to hear a mess cohen's response. for us on may 9/11 commission, checking accounts of that fraud of the birth certificate as one of the most vital things you can do. eve has done a tremendous job digitizing those records. what exactly are the issues with of the states and with amba in terms of not implementing that piece of real idea? >> i will give you a delaware perspective. it is extremely complicated. we have any number of jurisdictions issuing driver's license and i.d. cards. there is so many levels of technology involved with the 14,000 different types of birth certificates. in delaware, we are now just getting moving on the delaware eve records. we have a population of 90
it is sitting there politically in the bush administration and the obama administration for political reasons, they have not wanted to release that regulation. they want to digitize the private records and make them accessible to driver's license- issuing agencies in any other agency that needs it. it is the one piece of real idea that has not been done and the state's complaint is a cost issue and i would love to hear a mess cohen's response. for us on may 9/11 commission, checking accounts of...
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she is a perfect spokesperson for president obama's democrat party. with all due respect to the office of the presidency, when i hear barack obama speak at this point, especially when he lectures about ethics and civility, it's nauseating to me. >> that's a very scary thought, because barack obama is a socialist. he believes in socialism, in redistributing wealth, in confiscating hard-earned dollars. independent, patriotic americans who desire fiscal santa in our beloved nation being called terrorists, heck, sean, if we were real domestic terrorists, shoot, president obama would be wanting to pal around with us, wouldn't he? "time" magazine, consider their list of most influential people in the world, some who have made the list, yours truly. that ought to tell you something right there regarding the credence that we should give "time" magazine and their list of people. >> i wouldn't want to join a club that would accept me as a member. groucho marx said that there. she said something like it. it could be palin is out of step with the republican party
she is a perfect spokesperson for president obama's democrat party. with all due respect to the office of the presidency, when i hear barack obama speak at this point, especially when he lectures about ethics and civility, it's nauseating to me. >> that's a very scary thought, because barack obama is a socialist. he believes in socialism, in redistributing wealth, in confiscating hard-earned dollars. independent, patriotic americans who desire fiscal santa in our beloved nation being...
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>> fox news digital politics editor and host of power play on fox news live. there you have it. the white house is a step back and let the senate roll with this could get what president obama said he wanted which is a deal on immigration reform but instead the message we got out of the white house yesterday and you heard it there is i think it's important. the white house believes it is important before we let this moment pass to acknowledge that this is happening because of the president and his significant leadership on this. they just wanted to take a moment to pause and tell us how important it was that president obama gets the credit. that's what jay carney said. how does that help what we are seeing unfold right now which is a deal with republicans on capitol hill. how does this help or not? >> it does not help. it far from helps. the speech today we expect would not help either. that is why we saw that report from the congressional hispanic caucus saying don't push the republicans too hard on this. if they are coming to the table let them come in and let them be there, be
>> fox news digital politics editor and host of power play on fox news live. there you have it. the white house is a step back and let the senate roll with this could get what president obama said he wanted which is a deal on immigration reform but instead the message we got out of the white house yesterday and you heard it there is i think it's important. the white house believes it is important before we let this moment pass to acknowledge that this is happening because of the president...
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force, which helped put president obama in the white house twice. let's turn to leo gerard, president of the united steelworkers international organization. mr. gerard good to have you with us tonight. >> good to be here. >> is this an issue that is going to help the labor force in this country? if you have 11 million workers come out of the shadows -- and let's face it, well over in the 90% have got to be, they're not all felons is the point i'm making. how is this going to help the labor movement in this country? >> look, these are primarily good people that came to america in search of the american dream, in search of a better standard of living. if you go back to the days of when we were told about nafta, we were told nafta would solve the immigration issue from mexico, but in reality what it did is depress mexican wages, depress mexican opportunity. and those people came here in search of a better life. so what we've been fighting, the labor movement has been fighting for proper immigration reform now for going on almost 20 years. and i think t
force, which helped put president obama in the white house twice. let's turn to leo gerard, president of the united steelworkers international organization. mr. gerard good to have you with us tonight. >> good to be here. >> is this an issue that is going to help the labor force in this country? if you have 11 million workers come out of the shadows -- and let's face it, well over in the 90% have got to be, they're not all felons is the point i'm making. how is this going to help...
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we took part of these briefings of the obama administration team. we thought we had a program that was viable, limited, politically and legally realistic. one by way the entire intelligence committee have now been briefed into. to digress for a second, the major mistake we made, and i include myself in this, was in the early years of the program. the existence of the program, it was limited to the gang of 8. i think that was a mistake. by 2006 both had been briefed. we thought it was possible. we thought the obama administration could have continued the program in this limited form, at least maintained it as an option. it did not come to pass. i do not think any less realistically thought they would stick with it. we had not reviewed the executive order. guantanamo was out of our lane. this is a factual flaw in the film. they were saying this is not factually correct. we got a hold of the executive order again. all government will be confined to the techniques in army field manual. my friends and i have talked about this. i said not that you ask, th
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. >> in many ways this was obama pulling frankly a bill clinton, a politically shrewd move, all about the clintons and hillary ace political future. the joke is whether vice president joe biden has been peeled off the ceiling yet but on what may have been the more interesting obama interview published this weekend, the president talked gun control, the future of both parties and football with the "new republic" as they tried to relaunch. the president acknowledged getting gun control through congress will be tough and said "if you group up and your dad gave you a hunting rifle when you were 10 and you spent the day whim and your uncle and that became part of i don't are family traditions, you can see why you would be protective of that." ask if he ever fired a gun, the president went as far to say up at camp david we do skeet shooting all the time. the president will meet with law enforcement officials across america. it's looking more and more like by the way, that a background check bill is the vehicle that is most likely to get through the senate. on friday oklahoma republican sena
. >> in many ways this was obama pulling frankly a bill clinton, a politically shrewd move, all about the clintons and hillary ace political future. the joke is whether vice president joe biden has been peeled off the ceiling yet but on what may have been the more interesting obama interview published this weekend, the president talked gun control, the future of both parties and football with the "new republic" as they tried to relaunch. the president acknowledged getting gun...
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his wife did endorse obama in that campaign. politics are personal. jim, there's some concern by some that assuming that chuck hagel gets confirmed he will be a weaker secretary of defense within the cabinet, that policy will be run even more so out of the white house, out of the nsc because he has gone through this process, and doesn't have a strong political base himself within the administration. >> well, you know, that was the rap against william cohen. if you remember, a republican who served under the president -- democratic administration of president clinton. now, if people here in the building say, look, you know, chuck hagel would be fine for us, including military uniformed service members because they understand, as you just pointed out, that the white house is going to be pulling the strings, turning the screws no matter who is the secretary of defenses. republican or democrat. i do want to set the record straight a little bit on this debate over the surge. now, senator hagel in the confirmation hearing said that 1,200 americans were kill
his wife did endorse obama in that campaign. politics are personal. jim, there's some concern by some that assuming that chuck hagel gets confirmed he will be a weaker secretary of defense within the cabinet, that policy will be run even more so out of the white house, out of the nsc because he has gone through this process, and doesn't have a strong political base himself within the administration. >> well, you know, that was the rap against william cohen. if you remember, a republican...
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>> i think there's less focus on what the obama politics of the moment or his legacy. and it's beginning to creep, at least with some people, about what story they will be able to tell for the next election of what they did. they recognize that the president has had a lot of capital. he will use it. but for them, and it's not -- we talked about, they're split but there are some people saying thousand can we influence things? -- saying how can we influence things? chris: why don't they start passing bills in the house on background checks? >> more willingness to move forward on immigration than anything that hags the word gun in it. chris: thank you. when we come back, scoops and predictions right from t ♪ secondhand smoke affects everyone's health. it's not just irritating. it can cause heart disease and even death. speak up about secondhand smoke. your health and the health of your family depend on it. chris: welcome back. chuck todd, tell me something i don't know. >> sacks by chambliss retiring. -- saxby chambliss retiring. his best friend in the house, we see the
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conquest than political compromise. >> welcome back to "hardball." this weekend congressman paul ryan, you just saw him there, kept up the republican claim of victimhood. that president obama is more interested in defeating them than he is in getting something done for the country. last week house speaker john boehner started that dumb beat saying president obama was out to annihilate the republican party and ryan amplified it when he spoke at a future of conservatism summit this saturday. >> the president will bait us. he will portray us as cruel and unyielding. we can't get rattled. we won't play the villain in his morality plays. we have to stay united. we have to show that if given the chance, we can govern. that we have better ideas. >> president obama has said he hoped this re-election would break that republican fever of total opposition but in an interview with the new republic interview, brand new magazine, he said obviously that hant happened yet. joining me is columnist cynthia tucker and "the washington post's" eugene robinson. i want to
conquest than political compromise. >> welcome back to "hardball." this weekend congressman paul ryan, you just saw him there, kept up the republican claim of victimhood. that president obama is more interested in defeating them than he is in getting something done for the country. last week house speaker john boehner started that dumb beat saying president obama was out to annihilate the republican party and ryan amplified it when he spoke at a future of conservatism summit...